Despite
the fact that he was their forth lead guitarist in just three years, Bruce
has the distinction of having been a member of KISS for more consecutive
years than any of his predecessors, including original guitarist Ace
Frehley. When Mark St. John was afflicted with the debiliting reiter's
Syndrome just prior to the Animalize world tour, it was Bruce who stepped
in as a temporary - and ultimately, permanent replacement.
Over the course of 12 years with KISS, Bruce's talented songwriting and
musical contributions resulted in three platinum and four gold records,
beginning with the Asylum album in 1985. Following a whirlwind convention
tour in in 1995, Bruce participated in perhaps KISS' most ambitious
project, a live acoustic album. But while Kulick's work on KISS unplugged
is extraordinary, it was largely overshadowed by a collaborative
performance with Peter Criss and Ace Frehely that was to be the catalyst
in a reformation of the original band. Today Bruce has both hands fully
immersed in Union, a blues based hard rock band he formed with one - time
Motley Crue vocalist John Corabi. In addition to a recently released live
disc, Live in the Galaxy, a new studio album is currently in the works for
release on Spitfire Records, as well as the release of the
eponymously-titled debut album. And, Bruce still finds plenty of time to
participate as a special guest at numerous KISS conventions and expos each
year, actively maintaining his association as a member of the extended
KISS family. Speaking recently of that familial association, he offered
recollections of seeing several of the shows on the recent Psycho Circus
tour, not to mention his unique perspective on rumors that KISS' next tour
just might be their swansong performances.
How many shows did you see on the Psycho
Circus tour ? I saw two in America,
and I saw five over in Europe.
Does it sometime feel a little
surreal for you, maybe envisioning how it used to feel when you were up
there ?
It's always odd for me. I gotta admit that. In some ways, I see it very
much as two different bands, although there's a certain line that crosses
(through both). But when they're in the makeup, they're in character. Paul
and Gene, with Eric and I - either Eric - were always exciting performers,
and, to some degree, in their character. (In makeup), Gene, of course,
becomes more demon-like, and Paul becomes more the lover. He's gonna
prance around even more because he's got the makeup on. Looking at them
that way, I enjoy it more. Then, I don't feel so...odd. But if I wanted to
just look at it as, like "Okay, here's four guys that are gonna play
rock and roll songs," I'm like, "Well, we used to do that song."
Then it feels odd.
With all the shows that you saw,
which was the most memorable ?
I really enjoyed the Dodger stadium show. The enormous kind of feeling of
being in a stadium and knowing the pressure on them...it's the kickoff of
a tour for a new record and their new stage, and whatever else they were
going to come up with. I also had incredible seats. I kinda requested to
be really close. Sometimes, I don't wanna really be in the crowd. But I
wound up with fifth row center, and I had a blast ! I mean, I just loved
it ! I was very, very impressed with how well they pulled off that first
show. Of course, I heard comments from people who were very supportive,
and some who were so far back that they just didn't get it. They didn't
see the bigness of it all. But everybody around me really loved. It's
pretty funny...I was with this girl who was half-naked, so, obviously,
Gene and Paul were looking over a lot. I doubt they even recognized me
because my hair was a lot different than the last time they'd seen me. It
was just kind of funny to wonder, "Did they recognize me or
not?" (laughs) But either way, the show was, to me, quite impressive,
and I called them and told them so. I know they were really up in the air
with how things really went over. Musically, I only saw them get slightly
lost once, which is not bad when you think about playing a stadium, and
it's your first gig. They got out of that one okay - I remember discussing
that with Paul.
From a fan's perspective, what was
your favorite moment ?
It's hard to look at it as a fan. But the biggest treat was hearing them
do the new songs. That's the biggest challenge for KISS, getting new songs
to become important in the set. I knew when I heard Psycho Circus - I was
ivolved with helping Paul with the demo of it - that, "Oh, this is a
great opener for the concert." So, to see that open the show in a
giant stadium, that was thrilling to me. But again, it's hard. (Laughs) I
was obviously involved with certain things that are just a lot closer than
a fan. I did like the drums, the thing moving out over the stage, the co2
blasting out underneath it. Where I was, it was blasting out on me ! (Laughs)
So, that was kind of fun. Obviously, I think that all the effects came out
fine, even though there probably were some miscues that night. But the
whole thing, for me, came off big.
For
you, there must be a certain amount of pride and satisfaction in knowing
that, you, too, have contributed greatly to the legend of the KISS
spectacle.
I was very proud of a couple of the
tours we did that don't get talked about in the press, the ones with the
non-makeup band . The hot in the shade tour and even the revenge tour with
the giant statue of liberty. We did some really cool things. Even
animalize, running up into the light pods and those kinds of things. I
know what it is to be on a stage and how much preparition there is, and
praying that it all works. making sure you're not in a spot where the
pyro's going to blow up. This has always been kiss' problem : how do you
top what you did before and make it work ? This time around, the 3D thing,
certainly, came off fine.
If kiss performed anything from the
albums that didn't involve Peter and Ace, which songs would you like to
hear them play, and why ?
Well, I always look at certain albums through the 80's as having a couple
of key songs. What really surprises me is, they haven't touched on, let's
say "Creatures of the Night." Even though everyone who really
knows KISS knows Ace isn't on the record, his face is on it, y'know what I
mean ? (Laughs) He did the video for " I Love it Loud", and the
fans would absolutely freak over that. I think they should do that. They
should do "Heaven's on Fire", "Lick it Up", "Tears
are falling", although even sometimes we weren't sure if we should do
that one. from "Crazy Nights", I don't know what would fit this
version of the band because I'm thinking, with a musician's hat, "what
is really going to fit these guys?" And when you get into "Hot
in the Shade", could they do "Hide your heart?" Of course
they could.
Ace did it.
Right. Could they do "Forever?" I don't know if that would fit
them. Still, there are some classic songs from the 80's. From Revenge, I
think it would be a little tougher, but I am sure they could do a version
of "Domino".
I keep hoping and praying !
Yeah, and I know there's always been the rumors, "Oh, they're going
to do 'Unholy' ". I doubt it. That was even hard for the band with
Eric Singer and myself to do. There's a lot of tricky things in it. But
they pulled off "Within", and that's not an easy song either.
But, they've been really clear about not doing material from different
eras. I'm not sure why - that's their decision. They have been true to
just about the cutoff point. It's odd for me, and I know a lot of diehards
would love to see some songs from whatever era. Who knows ? Maybe they've
got some surprises coming up in the next tour.
Your hectic schedule of eight
European KISS expos over the course of two weeks was the prelude to an
Argentinian KISS expo in Buenos Aries. You've still maintained really
strong ties to the fans. Is that very important to you ?
I'm really proud of my tenure in the band, and I know that there are fans
who are curious to see what Bruce is up to. And a lot of them are
obviously thrilled that the guys are in makeup, but there's also sadness
about the fact that, "Well, I dug that KISS too." I seem to be
the one guy who worked with KISS who understands the big picture. I don't
wanna feel like it is a dysfunctional family. I still feel part of it, and
I totally understand them being in makeup. I'm not bitter about it. Now,
was it easy ? No, of course not. The fact that it happend - it could have
been done in a worse way, and it wasn't - I feel it was handled well by
both me and Eric Singer, and the band. And Ace and Peter too ! They were
all very cool about everything. So, why not keep the contact with the fans
? Sometimes in KISS, there would be periods of time when we weren't doing
anything. I can't say that that's what's been happening since I left the
band, because I have so much. Now that I'm not a member, that umbrella of
KISS, which really kind of covers everything, is suddenly gone, and I can
do whatever I want. I have all these things that I have to talk about.
Between my band, Union, doing a cover project with Eric Singer called ESP,
getting Eric Carr's music out - the Rockheads that are out now - doing
some session work and getting ready to do another Union record|. There's a
lot to promote and the KISS expos are really great ways to meet the fans
and share my expperiences. I certainly have some great stories to tell.
And, for some of them, it's really a thrill just to shake my hand and take
a picture with me. I can't tell you how much that...it's something that
I've been very fortunate about. There's not too many bands who have these
kinds of fans and could have these kind of conventions and expos.
Right.
I mean, maybe the beatles, and that's about it.
When it comes to bands, I don't think there's anyone else. It's a very,
very unique situation, and it's kind of fueled by this passion that the
fans have. Even the people who are involved in putting on these expos, at
the heart of all that, they are diehard KISS fans.
What has such an integral part of
the KISS family taught you in your work with Union ?
The whole ride with Gene and Paul, I got to see how two very smart people
want to protect what they've created, and do the best they can with
presenting what they've created. It isn't easy, because there's so many
landmines out there. I wanna be my own person here, but I certainly
learned a lot. They had their Ten Commandments for running a band. It
doesn't mean I gotta follow them, but there's certainly a lot to learn.
And, I did. On the creative process, as much as Gene and Paul certainly
run the band, they were always very open to hear everyone's ideas and what
you have to contribute. As absurd as your idea might be, they would
entertain it. That's something I was very strong about bringing to Union.
No idea is stupid : let's get this going, try everyone's ideas. And
because of that, entire songs used to sometimes change, for the most part
extremely so, for the better.
There has been a lot of speculation
that KISS might do one final farewell tour and close the book. What do you
think ?
They're gonna set up to go out again on a big tour, and, most likely,
they'll call it a farewell tour. But I've been around long enough to know
that people who say "farewell tour" mean they're gonna take a
few years off and see if they want to work again together. That's all.
Why, whatever do you mean, Ozzy ? (Laughs)
Excactly. Even David Bowie. The list of people who did that...but that's
okay, because I think it obviously will give them some closure. Maybe in
the year 2002, they decide, "Let's do another tour." I wouldn't
count them out, but if they actually decide to call it "farewell",
which I think they will, it just means that they can go take a break, and
that they're not tied to eachother. Once you gear up to do it all. And if
Ace wants to really pursue a record of his own design, it's kind of hard
to also be in KISS. Maybe Paul wants to get into other things, and I wish
him the best with The Phantom. That's an amazing opportunity for him. And
Gene is just a moguling maniac, even though he's a rock and roll icon.
These guys, like most succesful performers, like to spread out and do as
much as they can. Doing a farewell tour will give them the freedom to do
that. And then, they'll all get to spread their wings a bit. But it
doesn't mean that it's over forever. Just don't expect them to go back to
the early 90s version of KISS or the 80s version; I just don't see that.
The makeup thing is just a stronger identity for the band, although I
still feel that some of the tours that I was involved in, and some of the
records, stand up to the best of the makeup stuff. |